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枫下家园 / 理财投资税务 / 门外汉想赚钱, 想买NORTEL. 请问各位高手NORTEL 清盘破产的可能性有多大?
-back(我想归去,可是..哪里?);
2002-9-24
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我想谁也说不清,想抄,买一些,要做好准备一分钱也拿不回来.
-jdge(鱼);
2002-9-24
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近期破产的可能性不大, NT手里好像还有很多现金呢....
-decentboy(黄金重装甲骑士);
2002-9-24
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You are wrong, both NT and LU lack of cash. NT just borrow some money by selling its new bond. Although this way can bring it some cash, but its loan is really huge now.Don't touch NT and LU if you are not a day trader. The are the worst one among all telecom suppliers.
-wins(wins);
2002-9-24
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同意你后面的观点..但一个月前似乎还说他有几个亿的现金呢, 虽然债务很重, 但好像现金>债务...
-decentboy(黄金重装甲骑士);
2002-9-24
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Tens of million cash is nothing for a big company like NT and LU. Do you know NT's debt is in billion level? How could you say that NT's cash> its debt?
-wins(wins);
2002-9-24
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How about ALA? Its stock is very confusing. I could not figure out its debt level.
-wade(wade);
2002-9-24
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直接去Nortel.com看它的report不就行了嘛。NT还有48亿的现金(六月底),不过它半年的净现金流是负15亿。考虑到它可以layoff,一年内是破不了产的。
-jianghongca(慎独);
2002-9-24
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而且债务的多少和现金的多少是两个概念,不要混淆。
-jianghongca(慎独);
2002-9-24
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I doubt it. If the slump last for another half year, Nortel could go bankrupt unless the government injects money, which is possible.
-wade(wade);
2002-9-24
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I don't believe the government could stand by NT. Csco has more than 10 billion cash in hand. It could the most likely rescuer to NT. Otherwise, outsourcing NT's optical department may do some help to its survivior.
-wins(wins);
2002-9-24
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Not much optical department left. I can't see any reason why CSCO want NT. For optical, CIENA seems more attractive. However, NT is kind of likeflagship in Canada. I can harly imagine that canadian government would let it sink like that. When NT was BNR, it was said 30% of operation fees come from government. So it is not undoable. Just a wild guess though.
-wade(wade);
2002-9-24
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北电倒的可能性不大, 但反身的机会绝对没有.
-playtiger(又一秋);
2002-9-24
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Agree.
-wade(wade);
2002-9-24
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短期还是有机会的...一旦有些许好消息, 股价一旦上涨, 哪些做short的人肯定赶紧回购, 抓住这个机会能赚一些....
-decentboy(黄金重装甲骑士);
2002-9-24
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近期北电狂泻, 我估计和机构大量SHORT 有关. 个人意见在一元(加币)整数关附近应该有反弹.
-fox69(fox);
2002-9-24
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想知道的话,可以参考NT的prefered share 的yield。现在大概是21%。正常的公司是5%-7%之间,你可以衡量的。
-jianghongca(慎独);
2002-9-24
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Do not touch NT anymore. My boss told me a rumour that canadian government will give up NT and let it goes to bankrupt soon.
-xiliu(Elantra);
2002-9-25
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NT = Never Touch, 俺从去年2月就开始警告的
-ceo(Chief Eating Officer);
2002-9-25
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可以碰, 不过要看准方向,要是从去年2月就开始卖空北电, 可就发了.
-fox69(fox);
2002-9-25
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谢谢各位DX的热心指教! 同时也感到很沮丧, 各位DX的不少专业名词我都不太明白, 比如prefered share 的yield, 还有现金和债务的关系(好像这里有钱也不用先还债), 看来要成为门内汉还有很高的门槛要爬, :)
-back(我想归去,可是..哪里?);
2002-9-25
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看看NT吧,哈哈哈
-ceo(Chief Eating Officer);
2002-9-26
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早上听新闻, 一下子跌了21分...可怕....
-decentboy(黄金重装甲骑士);
2002-9-26
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加拿大经济增长3.4%,G7中列首位....~
-mildkiller(M.K.);
2002-9-26
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我觉的看长期增长率还得盯着美国, 美国经济要老是半死不活的, 加拿大也好不了多久....
-decentboy(黄金重装甲骑士);
2002-9-26
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DOWN
-ceo(Chief Eating Officer);
2002-9-27
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