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工作学习 / 求学深造 / 国内的侄子有过来读大学，滑铁卢的精算，只知道滑铁卢的计算机专业挺好，这个精算算不算个好专业，起码就业前景好对精算一无所知
-cl281(担担面&蛋炒饭);
2009-5-14
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Very, very, very good; especially co-op program.
-hkchan(*);
2009-5-14
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First year is general math. Can only get into actuarial in second year. The cost benefit for this program is high. Much easier than Engineering/CS but much higher salary afterwards.
-jeffrey815(Smartiecat);
2009-5-14
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感觉像会计的延伸，算算准备金，年金，保额，未来给付什么的。收入起点高。
-kingsw(Steven);
2009-5-14
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It has abosolutely nothing to do with Accounting.
-jeffrey815(Smartiecat);
2009-5-15
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金饭碗！好好好！
-yueren(我要辞职);
2009-5-14
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金饭碗还不至于，找工作不好找，但找到的话收入会不错，不过收入再不错也没医生高，在美国加拿大actuary平均跟药剂师挣的差不多，我刚才去查的美国劳工数据厅的平均薪水表。
-dosimetrist(Radiation Oncology);
2009-5-25
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补一句：精算师收入没药剂师高（平均就稍差了几百-几千），两个大概都是在10万左右，收入上来看是份很好的工作。
-dosimetrist(Radiation Oncology);
2009-5-25
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在加拿大，有牌的精算师绝对赚的比有牌的药剂师高。药剂师封顶很快，精算师potential高很多。
-jeffrey815(Smartiecat);
2009-5-25
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安省刚毕业的retail pharmacists起薪就10万左右，一般药店一次给上万的sign on bonus，某连锁是一次3万还是5万多。 虽然再干几年薪水涨幅不会很大但别忘了很多药剂师是自己开药铺自己当老板的。精算师真正能考出8个还是几个试的据说相当少，我听滑铁卢学精算的说一般起薪6万上下（前提还是能找到工作的），30来岁的时候10万应该也不愁，但以后有没有更大的潜力就要看个人了。 干一辈子也爬不上去的大有人在。
-dosimetrist(Radiation Oncology);
2009-5-27
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See inside
-jeffrey815(Smartiecat);
2009-5-27
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See inside.
-dosimetrist(Radiation Oncology);
2009-5-28
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I don't think so. Let me point you out what's wrong with your data.
-jeffrey815(Smartiecat);
2009-5-28
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Actuarial Consultant, RE-06 ; Salary Range: $84,900 to $108,100; Fellowship of the Canadian Institute of Actuaries
-hkchan(*);
2009-5-28
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Your data comes from a RECRUITMENT AGENCY. For crying out loud pharmacy recruitment agencies have also posted 300k-500k job offers before. The other thing is
-dosimetrist(Radiation Oncology);
2009-5-28
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You need to re-read what I wrote and understand what my point is.I have said numerous times that pharmacy is a job that you don't need to work hard for 100k+, you graduate with that much money and if you aren't happy with it then you can start your own pharmacy and make a lot more.
Actuary is a job that you need to work very hard in order to pass the exams and become a real actuary and make 100k+ or even more, but many people won't be able to make it.
-dosimetrist(Radiation Oncology);
2009-5-28
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I think there is another difference as well. Actuaries typical spend most of their time in front of their computer (even if you are VP). Whereas pharmacist are more people oriented; especially if you own a store.How to keep your customer satisfied is key to success.
So look at the mirror and think what kind of person you are. BTW, I think not that many fresh qualified actuaries (with 2 - 3 years experience can earn $110K.
-hkchan(*);
2009-5-29
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I'm speaking with the experience of my company, which is the largest employer of qualified actuaries in Canada. The typical paid for fresh fellow is around 100 to 110K. And the avg quanlification period in my company is around 3 years upon graduation.It also depends on your career inspiration. As an actuary, the career potential is unlimited, you can become a CEO, Chairman, etc, etc, where you are rich and famous.
As a pharmacist, yes, you can become a pharmacy owner, but that's nowhere near the potential of the actuarial profession.
-jeffrey815(Smartiecat);
2009-5-29
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MFC?
-hkchan(*);
2009-5-29
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NB专业，工作不愁而且工资不错。关键一点，是要能上出来，很多人上不出来，很多中国孩子数学很好的，进去都很吃力。
-ttl(日后再说);
2009-5-14
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Much easier than engineering, computer science, doctor, etc.
-jeffrey815(Smartiecat);
2009-5-15
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比engineering， cs 难多了，估计比doctor简单。
-ttl(日后再说);
2009-5-15
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I did the program. Trust me. The difficulty is nowhere close to Engineering and also easier than CS.
-jeffrey815(Smartiecat);
2009-5-15
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请问UFT的精算专业与WATERLOO的精算专业有何区别?谢谢先.
-happy2003(happy2003);
2009-5-15
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UW has coop. UT does not. The biggest difference.
-jeffrey815(Smartiecat);
2009-5-15
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I hope you understand no all the graduate got a job; only the very best.
-hkchan(*);
2009-5-15
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Above average can find a job.
-jeffrey815(Smartiecat);
2009-5-15
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Agree, I just don't want people have a wrong perspective any actuarial graduate can get a decent job.
-hkchan(*);
2009-5-15
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感谢大家的发言，起码看上去不是个坏专业，师傅领进门，修行在个人。
-cl281(担担面&蛋炒饭);
2009-5-16
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不错的专业。北美很多数学功底好的博士生转专业不少都选择精算，一般去保险等行业。国内精算师人数不多，将来国内的发展空间肯定比留在北美还要大。
-manniangpai(慢两拍);
2009-5-17
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瞎说， 我表弟，和他媳妇都是有资格的精算师, 国内根本不需要那么多精算师, 我表弟说８０－９０％都改行了。
-yye(曲院风荷);
2009-5-21
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是啊，不懂乱说的人还不少，jeffrey815是waterloo学这个专业毕业的，他应该最了解。我听同学说这个专业就业面比较窄，工作不是那么好找。还请证实。
-zhu(ironic);
2009-5-21
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这种一个就够了的专业，能好到哪里去？占了好坑，读个这专业的PARTTIME MATER倒不错。还是CS好，哪里都能去，万能膏药。
-ignoreme(别当真);
2009-5-21
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好像已经热了好几年了。有无人满为患的可能？
-neverlookback(狗子);
2009-5-21
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我听说这边是原来挺缺精算人才的，结果大家都去学精算，然后就很难找工作了。国内据说更缺精算，不过听说现在学精算的也多了，但海龟精算的那还是极少极少吧，大部分都是经济管理之类的。
-dosimetrist(Radiation Oncology);
2009-5-25
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It's not good for career changer. For people start fresh, it is a good program. If you get into the coop program and you do not limit yourself geographically (meaning u r willing to go to US), it's almost 50% employment rate during a normal year.
-jeffrey815(Smartiecat);
2009-5-21
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真心请教。我五年前考过两门精算，后来找到银行工作就没有再考。现在觉得在浪费生命，想重新考证。只是担心年纪太大了，37岁了。我在银行里做信贷的风险分析，教育背景是经济学硕士和计算机本科，理科非常好，英文一般。万分感激
-kevinchen(kevinchen);
2009-6-2
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要是学完直接回国， 只有上海，北京才有精算师的职位。去上海，北京和其他地方外资银行，保险公司都有可能。女的去招聘会有歧视， 很多地方不要女的。
-yye(曲院风荷);
2009-5-22
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That's because "made-in-China" actuaries do not have any experience.
-jeffrey815(Smartiecat);
2009-5-21
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有见地！jeffrey815是不是也考虑海龟一下？
-199yuan(猜猜);
2009-5-21
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Nah. I enjoy my 40hr work-week in Canada. They work a minimum 70hr work-week in China. Our HK/China office replies emails 24/7.
-jeffrey815(Smartiecat);
2009-5-21
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You must be working in an insurance company. Most consulting firms require longer work hours. I know someone working in Mercer spends more than 50 hours at his office each week.
-ecilamtl(Tony);
2009-5-22
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Mercer exploits workers, especially entry level. You can see people 3 levels above you are doing interesting jobs but all you do is repetitive tasks, and for a long time. Not to mention their pay is so crappy.
-jeffrey815(Smartiecat);
2009-5-22
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Correct me if I am wrong. IMO whether an actuarial job is interesting sometimes depends on the field you are working in. My impression is that pension related projects are more boring than others under most circumstances.Compensation wise, Eckler is more generous. I heard very few Chinese get the chance to fill their opening positions though.
-ecilamtl(Tony);
2009-5-22
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It's simply that when you are working at a pension valuation firm, unless you are a consultant, all you do is pension valuation, maybe for a couple years, where most knowledge you would learn in your year.After that, nothing more than a repetitive process.
Eckler has life and P&C consulting. It's more diversified.
-jeffrey815(Smartiecat);
2009-5-22
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I called them factory instead of actuary.
-hkchan(*);
2009-5-22
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我表弟和他媳妇都是英国最好的精算系毕业的， 证都考好。就是没能在英国找工作。加拿大留学生容易留下来工作。
-yye(曲院风荷);
2009-5-22
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一朋友的女儿在这间学校的这个专业毕业(今年),刚找了份工作,年薪6万多,不知算不算好呢?
-haole555(speaker);
2009-5-25
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