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枫下沙龙 / 梦想天空 / Speaking of courtly love, is it,from your "Dumb" point of view ^_^, purely emotional or somehow erotic and physical as well? And any similarity and/or difference between courtly love and Platonic love, if there is any?
-wantbaby(：）);
2017-4-8
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怎么回事, 梦坛现在只讲英文了? 看不懂诶 ~~
-littlebird09(小小鸟);
2017-4-8
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pm内衣外翻：），估计是给朵朵看的^
-fangxu1(fangfang);
2017-4-8
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Are you serious? Did any of your knights relate their success story to you about scoring big simply by wearing underwear on top of overcoat? Didn't realize seduction could be that easy!
-the_dumb_one(dumb_and_dumber);
2017-4-8
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Even De Valmont couldn't make it? ^_^
-wantbaby(：）);
2017-4-8
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Valmont is a Valmont simply because he never chooses the easy path. He is only interested in hard target.
-the_dumb_one(dumb_and_dumber);
2017-4-8
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From your point of view, De Valmont was deemed noble, just because he was noble in heart? Is that all, or not?
-wantbaby(：）);
2017-4-8
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a bastard with a heavy conscience, how much nobler can it be?
-the_dumb_one(dumb_and_dumber);
2017-4-8
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Platonic love is not erotic in nature. The other one must be erotic in the first place. It is erotic desire with no consummation, by voluntary determination.
-the_dumb_one(dumb_and_dumber);
2017-4-8
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Are you still at work? Am I interrupting you one way or the other? To you, ideology is closely around politics, which is why you try to distant yourself away from it?
-wantbaby(：）);
2017-4-8
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Ideology always has a dimension of time, hence it limits our experience as The human being in general. Poetry and philosophy help us overcome the tyrannical dimension of time.
-the_dumb_one(dumb_and_dumber);
2017-4-8
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May I have a brighter and straighter answer to the deemed question that "Is poetic artistry part of ideology?"
-wantbaby(：）);
2017-4-8
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no. ideology is the end of poetry.
-the_dumb_one(dumb_and_dumber);
2017-4-8
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No such things as poetic ideology or ideological poetry?
-wantbaby(：）);
2017-4-8
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yes, of course, as you see in some "great" poems by Guo Moruo.
-the_dumb_one(dumb_and_dumber);
2017-4-8
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?
-wantbaby(：）);
2017-4-8
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his poems are perfect examples of ideological poetry
-the_dumb_one(dumb_and_dumber);
2017-4-8
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So your dissertation was on Ximenqin and De Valmont? If you had an opportunity after life, which one of the two villains would you prefer to be, and why?
-wantbaby(：）);
2017-4-8
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If I had the luxury I would love to be a unified unicorn that incorporates both villains into a super one,Ximen being the perpetual predator whereas Valmont the eternal seducer. If one is all I can pick then I will choose Valmont, for he is a knight who is noble in his heart.
-the_dumb_one(dumb_and_dumber);
2017-4-8
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De Valmont was published in 1782, while Jin Ping Mei in 1610. Does that mean the golden era of classy villains was long gone without the possibility of coming back to life again? Why is that?
-wantbaby(：）);
2017-4-8
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trust me, he has never left. he has always been there. and he will always be there. if you have watched themovie "Bugsy" you probably did re-encounter the villain with the name Valmont in Bugsy himself. that is why I used the word The human being in general.
-the_dumb_one(dumb_and_dumber);
2017-4-8
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Think about the West meets the East,or the East meets the West. Is it fascinating that the golden eras of villains in the West and the East almost co-existed at about the same time period? Universal or timeless as it is, whether in the West or in the East?
-wantbaby(：）);
2017-4-8
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What do you mean by erotic desire with no consummation? Did you mean spiritually erotic, yet physically not? Or right in the middle of somewhere out there?
-wantbaby(：）);
2017-4-8
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It is supposed to be only spiritual, although passionate.
-the_dumb_one(dumb_and_dumber);
2017-4-8
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What is the true reason that courtly love came into being? For the only sake of Romanticism, the flattering literary movement or for something other than or beyond the movement?
-wantbaby(：）);
2017-4-8
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When the lucky and unorthodox bastard scored perfectly high, what would be the ultimate response of the Lady's unfortunate husband? Was it one of his choices to simply throw himself right into Lake Ontario?
-wantbaby(：）);
2017-4-8
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Don't remember the detail of the anecdote. And don't believe anyone knew about Lake Ontario then, it is too modern and too Canadian.
-the_dumb_one(dumb_and_dumber);
2017-4-8
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Just in case....for your information, our beloved Lake Ontario was formed 10000 or 14000 years ago, wayyyyy before the birth of your villains.
-wantbaby(：）);
2017-4-8
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what does it matter if nobody knew about it. in the office we like to say it is stupid to work hard. however, it is even more stupid to work hard but never getting recognized.
-the_dumb_one(dumb_and_dumber);
2017-4-8
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建议你俩移到肉脸英文版讨论。
-ariaspencer(风轻云淡);
2017-4-8
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As long as at least ONE person knew it, we may not be able to deem it as nobody knows it?
-wantbaby(：）);
2017-4-8
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