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小土豆八年加国会计路 (国际学生~找工~小firm~四大~企业)(4)

本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛Christmas was coming, SP’s good friend, a classmate called Chubby Potato got two job offers at the same time. One is from a big 5 bank, the other is from a small firm with 3 partners and over 30 employees. Chubby Potato took the bank offer and referred SP and another classmate Sweet Carrot (SC) to the small CA firm.

The hiring partner (Mr Turning Point) and the manager interviewed SP and SC on the same morning respectively and told them they would make their decision in the afternoon. SP and SC went back to the campus and exchanged the interview questions over the phone – obviously they were the same. SP and SC did not talk too long because the employer’s call might arrive anytime that afternoon.

SP nervously sat beside the phone, even daring not to go to the washroom. How she wished the partner would choose her! But SC had working experience in fortune 500, and she believed SC looked even prettier than her…

One o’clock, two o’clock, three o’clock, four…. SP could not wait anymore, if she did not grab this opportunity, she probably could not find a placement before the New Year…thinking at this, she picked up the phone and dialed the partner’s number, but no one answered. She dialed again and was transferred to the voice mail—SP took a deep breath and thrown all that she thought the partner might concern into the voice mail –“Mr Turning Point, I just want to let you know I really care about this opportunity. I’ve already done over 300 tax returns for last tax season, I don’t need too much training; I am willing to stay late and I won’t mind traveling for audit….” After SP hang up the phone, she felt it such a relief, even she did not got hired, she tried everything she could…

Half an hour later, SP’s phone rang – she got the offer! However, this exciting call was followed by SC’s call –
“they called you yet?”
“err.. yes…”
“so you got the offer?!.....”

SP heard SC cried …She suddenly felt so guilty as if she stole the opportunity from Sweet Carrot…she never told SC about the follow up phone call she made…What made SP felt better was early in the new year, SC located a job in a national CA firm.

Chubby Potato got SP’s news. “To be honest, I really don’t know whether I made the right choice…” SP could understand why he said this, going for the bank meant CP gave up the opportunity to be a CA. But looking at the starting salary, SP believed it was not a difficult decision for CP to make at the moment.

(Sidebar: both Sweet Carrot and Chubby Potato later got their CMAs and did very well in the major banks.)更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
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  • 小土豆八年加国会计路 (国际学生~找工~小firm~四大~企业) (之二)
    After a lot of effort went in vain, SP tried to reach the partners directly—it was not difficult, SP just went to each firm’s website according to the list and got the partners’ names– when she called she pretended to be cool and professional-- “Could you transfer me to XXX?” usually the receptionist dared not to ask questions like “why you look for xxx”. SP finally got an interview and received her first job offer in life!

    SP started her first intern in a firm with 5 people including herself – The other four people are partner, partner’s wife, manager, and receptionist. Her duties were purely personal tax returns. After two days on the job training, SP began to work on her own. Over the 4 months period, she did over 300 returns. Although SP worked like a machine everyday, she felt happy-- She got paid while she was learning – nice!
    • You must have made dozens of cold calls before you finally landed a job in a CA firm, 佩服佩服. 偶大学毕业时的经历和你一样,可是偶就没有想到过打cold call,估计即使想到了,也没有这个胆量和勇气去试。
      • it's all b/c Without fullfilling the co op requirement, SP would not able to get her degree
    • Thanks for sharing successful story. Please continue.
    • Where there is a will, there is a way. very impressive! Looking forward to the next episode// 希望你不介意我给你的回忆录起了个中文名字. : )
      • the name sounds "Hen (3) Ge(2) min (4)
        • That means I am so much older than you and couldn't find a popular title : (
          • As long as not a jinx, it will be fine.
    • 谢谢分享, 刚来加时也试过cold call,被拒绝后恨不得打自己一巴掌。。。没有勇气打第二次
      • the tip is to try to reach the person who make hiring decision.
        • 嗯,有道理,我结结巴巴地和receiption还没说完,人就把电话给挂了
    • You will never fail unless you give up. 很强悍。。羡慕!
    • 小土豆八年加国会计路 (国际学生~找工~小firm~四大~企业) (3)
      本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛Time flied. Summer was gone and it was time to look for the second co-op again. SP thought at least she could go back to the small firm she did her first co-op. However, the firm did not call SP back. It was a shock! SP did not understand why. She wanted to call the manger in the small firm and asked directly – but the idea was finally dropped –what that could help? Begging for a job from someone who did not appreciate her hardwork?? Wiping off her tears, SP moved on.

      Big four did not come back to recruit in Senior Class, big banks ignored SP… Experiencing more and more frustrations, Strong Potato upgraded to Steel Potato.

      One day during the class break, SP rushed to the lab to print out and submit an application to a new opening –she ran into her professor, a Nice Lady (NL) over 70s.

      “Still looking for the co-op?” seeing the resume held by SP, NL kindly asked.
      “Yeah, but no luck….” SP lowered her head…
      “Oh… if you need reference you can give them my name… and…I just want you to remember one thing: no matter how many times you failed, don’t lose your confidence in front of the interviewer – because they wouldn’t know how many interviews you’ve been to. Just treat every interview as it is your first one, you are excited and full of confidence.”

      These words were planted into SP’s heart and applied in my respects of her life since then. No matter how many failed attempts she made, she always keep energetic and passionate about what she was pursuing.更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
      • small --> strong --> steel --> shining potato, haha! :-)
      • Really enjoy reading your articles. "steel potato" ? Full of imagination.
        Bai3 Lian4 Cheng2 Gang1

        Thanks!
      • Why not treating every interview as your final successful one?
        • Good point.
      • 真是好文,不顶不行。
    • 小土豆八年加国会计路 (国际学生~找工~小firm~四大~企业)(4)
      本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛Christmas was coming, SP’s good friend, a classmate called Chubby Potato got two job offers at the same time. One is from a big 5 bank, the other is from a small firm with 3 partners and over 30 employees. Chubby Potato took the bank offer and referred SP and another classmate Sweet Carrot (SC) to the small CA firm.

      The hiring partner (Mr Turning Point) and the manager interviewed SP and SC on the same morning respectively and told them they would make their decision in the afternoon. SP and SC went back to the campus and exchanged the interview questions over the phone – obviously they were the same. SP and SC did not talk too long because the employer’s call might arrive anytime that afternoon.

      SP nervously sat beside the phone, even daring not to go to the washroom. How she wished the partner would choose her! But SC had working experience in fortune 500, and she believed SC looked even prettier than her…

      One o’clock, two o’clock, three o’clock, four…. SP could not wait anymore, if she did not grab this opportunity, she probably could not find a placement before the New Year…thinking at this, she picked up the phone and dialed the partner’s number, but no one answered. She dialed again and was transferred to the voice mail—SP took a deep breath and thrown all that she thought the partner might concern into the voice mail –“Mr Turning Point, I just want to let you know I really care about this opportunity. I’ve already done over 300 tax returns for last tax season, I don’t need too much training; I am willing to stay late and I won’t mind traveling for audit….” After SP hang up the phone, she felt it such a relief, even she did not got hired, she tried everything she could…

      Half an hour later, SP’s phone rang – she got the offer! However, this exciting call was followed by SC’s call –
      “they called you yet?”
      “err.. yes…”
      “so you got the offer?!.....”

      SP heard SC cried …She suddenly felt so guilty as if she stole the opportunity from Sweet Carrot…she never told SC about the follow up phone call she made…What made SP felt better was early in the new year, SC located a job in a national CA firm.

      Chubby Potato got SP’s news. “To be honest, I really don’t know whether I made the right choice…” SP could understand why he said this, going for the bank meant CP gave up the opportunity to be a CA. But looking at the starting salary, SP believed it was not a difficult decision for CP to make at the moment.

      (Sidebar: both Sweet Carrot and Chubby Potato later got their CMAs and did very well in the major banks.)更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
      • What a wonderful story and life experience!
      • what a happy ending!
      • DING! 故事越写越精彩了!
      • 还有吗?
      • I really liked this part "she felt it such a relief, even she did not got hired, she tried everything she could…" 我的一惯态度是姜太公钓鱼, 看来应该积极一点
        • 有本事自然不怕了,年轻也好,吃点苦就有远大前程. 怕的就是我这样,又老又改行,找工遇到911,喝凉水都长胖的。//昨天有个MN诉苦说发了两周简历没找到工作, 真想把TA挂你鱼钩上. 精心发2000份简历再来诉苦不迟
          • 发两周已经够有耐心了,换了是我,发两天没反应就要哭天嚎地了。
          • 我这不也是受了的cold call 的刺激才这样的嘛,
          • 我看了。很感动。这是是条漫长的路,起码要有思想准备这可能是条漫长的路。真的很佩服SP的精神。
          • 当年发了1000份RESUME,做过1000多personal income tax returns.问题是没本地学历和会计经验(又不想回头念加拿大专科或本科).数次被内部介绍的人临时顶了.20个月没工作.最终总算有个入门. COLD CALL确实没打过。还是有本地学历的找工容易。
      • (5) ne?
        • 是不是要等猪宝宝出完这颗牙再写?大家都等不及了。:-)
          • You and Mickey, don't underestimate my son- he has 6 teeth already!
            • 6 teeth already, wow!
            • Then 猪宝宝 must be three months younger than my little nephew who could call me “gu-gu…du-luu-luu” // Sorry, I forgot this is not 亲亲宝贝:-)
              • I thought he called you guru, guru.
                • Alright, I'll teach him how to say "Fei-hua-gu-ru" next time. Thanks for your advice. :-)
    • 小土豆八年加国会计路 (国际学生~找工~小firm~四大~企业) (之5)
      本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛After the co-op, Mr Turning Point did not only offer SP a full time job before she graduated but also sponsored her to stay in Canada a year later when her working visa was expired. SP converted her thankfulness to Mr TP into energy at work. She got an exposure too all areas of accounting/tax work public firms provided---

      A. Notice to Reader
      --usually SP needed to start from scratch – Posting the bank statements/investment statements and made routine adjusting entries such as accrual, amortization and specific entries according to manager’s “insider information” such as shareholder’s loan, dividend

      --to add some sun, here’s an anecdote:

      At the beginning, SP received a lot of posting job from a co-worker, Zoy 1, a Greek Girl who always claimed “I am an accountant, not a bookkeeper--no data entry!” Since SP was No Idea, it didn’t matter to her it was accounting or bookkeeping job. And she was happy to help Zoy 1, so that SP had something to be busy with. Several months later, Super CGA, SP’s greatest Mentor in the firm (who taught SP everything from Bank Reconciliation to Drafting Audit Plan and Designing the Audit Procedures) told SP “you know why I’d like to teach you? You are smart about not picking on the jobs – bookkeeping is the foundation of the accounting. Without a good understanding of those basic entries, you won’t think fast and won’t make a great accountant.”更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
      • 沙发!
      • Sit down with you. Thanks, 猪宝宝's mom!
      • 板凳!年纪大的坐沙发,小孩子坐板凳。呵呵!
      • Agreed "bookkeeping is the foundation of the accounting", __ from a person started from data entry.