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即使在民主自由的西方世界，有了这些sign, 也会有麻烦的。 只是在白左当道的世界里，极端伊斯兰没人能管。我从来认为，活人当神，是为邪，包括老mao, 小jin, 还有那谁

mikesmith(老猫)
  1. Absolute authoritarianism without accountability
  2. Zero tolerance for criticism or questions
  3. Lack of meaningful financial disclosure regarding budget
  4. Unreasonable fears about the outside world that often involve evil conspiracies and persecutions
  5. A belief that former followers are always wrong for leaving and there is never a legitimate reason for anyone else to leave
  6. Abuse of members
  7. Records, books, articles, or programs documenting the abuses of the leader or group
  8. Followers feeling they are never able to be “good enough”
  9. A belief that the leader is right at all times
  10. A belief that the leader is the exclusive means of knowing “truth” or giving validation
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  • 枫下沙龙 / 谈天说地 / 即使在民主自由的西方世界，有了这些sign, 也会有麻烦的。 只是在白左当道的世界里，极端伊斯兰没人能管。我从来认为，活人当神，是为邪，包括老mao, 小jin, 还有那谁 -mikesmith(老猫); 2023-12-30 {782} (#15858324@0) +2
    1. Absolute authoritarianism without accountability
    2. Zero tolerance for criticism or questions
    3. Lack of meaningful financial disclosure regarding budget
    4. Unreasonable fears about the outside world that often involve evil conspiracies and persecutions
    5. A belief that former followers are always wrong for leaving and there is never a legitimate reason for anyone else to leave
    6. Abuse of members
    7. Records, books, articles, or programs documenting the abuses of the leader or group
    8. Followers feeling they are never able to be “good enough”
    9. A belief that the leader is right at all times
    10. A belief that the leader is the exclusive means of knowing “truth” or giving validation
    • 耶稣当神时也是活人。 -yiran1(实话实说); 2023-12-30 (#15858335@0) +1
      • During his lifetime, Jesus himself didn't call himself God and didn't consider himself God, and ... none of his disciples had any inkling at all that he was God -mikesmith(老猫); 2023-12-30 (#15858340@0) +1
        • 李洪志也没说他是神。 -yiran1(实话实说); 2023-12-30 (#15858345@0) +1
          • “活人当神”----自己没说，门徒当神供着也算 -bigsquirrel(大松鼠); 2023-12-30 (#15858357@0) +4
        • 耶稣是以神的名义和方式教导门徒和世人，他被定在十字架也是以神子的身份救赎世人，他活着是神没错，藏传佛教的达赖也是活佛 -qwedward(..); 2023-12-30 (#15858350@0)
          • “Jesus did not claim divinity and was not worshipped as divine during his lifetime. -mikesmith(老猫); 2023-12-30 {246} (#15858363@0)
            Instead, the belief in Jesus as divine arose shortly after his crucifixion, and that the belief in Jesus as God the Son, an incarnation of God and the second divine person in the Trinity in Christian doctrine, developed in the following decades”
            • 是不是神是人家门徒说了算，外人没资格，如果按照马克思主义，宗教都是装神弄鬼，圣经是记录神的言论当然是后来的事情，这不能证明耶稣门徒不认为耶稣是神 -qwedward(..); 2023-12-30 (#15858365@0)
              • 所有人都有“资格”评论，毕竟我们在一个还算言论自由的社会，只是评论某些宗教领袖有危险，比如在法国被学生砍头的教师，在朝鲜评论小Jin, 在大陆评论大大。还有，对比主贴那10条，毛泽东化的马列主义本身就有很多邪教性质。 -mikesmith(老猫); 2023-12-30 {58} (#15858373@0)
                但是，反对一个邪教的组织，并没有自身不是邪教组织的免疫性。
                • 我说的资格不是法律意义的言论自由，而是“你说了不算“ -qwedward(..); 2023-12-30 (#15858375@0)
                  • 信仰不犯法，行为才可能。所以西方世界里有众多被法律保护不受政府干扰的邪教。 -mikesmith(老猫); 2023-12-30 (#15858382@0)
                    • 所以没有什么正邪之分，任何宗教都认为别人是邪教，用正邪来划分宗教是政治需要，你被共产洗脑了 -qwedward(..); 2023-12-30 (#15858385@0)
                      • 法律是底线，不是区分正邪的准绳，摩门教娶幼妻，娶多妻，都能安然无事几十年，感谢宪法第一修正案，保护宗教自由有时候大于保护人权。 -mikesmith(老猫); 2023-12-30 (#15858391@0) +1
                        • 也就是说宗教没有正邪，行为区分是否违法，上帝的事情让上帝去管，国王的事情让国王去管，是否极端要看行为而不是教义 -qwedward(..); 2023-12-30 (#15858396@0)
    • 你不指名道姓，难道大家就不知道你想说谁？😂😂 -newrover(漫游); 2023-12-30 (#15858346@0)
      • 其实我想说的是洪秀全 - 耶稣他弟 -mikesmith(老猫); 2023-12-30 (#15858355@0)

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