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伊维菌素是默克生产的，疫情后不太生产了，而且默克也出来申明IVM不能治新冠，因为他们自己要出新冠药，后来，牛津大学研究发现默克新冠药无效。

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Molnupiravir did not reduce the frequency of COVID-19-associated hospitalisations or death among high-risk vaccinated adults in the community.

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枫下家园 / 医药保健 / 病了。头痛低烧了两天，过后喉痛胸闷轻咳了几天。为防万一，从第一天开始吃宠物版ivermectin，30mg/Day for the first 4 days, 25mg/Day for another 2 days. 连花清瘟冲剂总共吃了10包，每天三次。非常喜欢它芳香的气味。 -sailor(Ocean & Mountain); 2023-1-3 (#15074088@0) +4

拍拍愿早日康复🤝 -eleclan(eleclan); 2023-1-3 (#15074090@0) +8

🙏 -sailor(Ocean & Mountain); 2023-1-3 (#15074214@0)

希望早日康复。 -**🌕; 2023-1-3 (#15074092@0) +3

🙏 -sailor(Ocean & Mountain); 2023-1-3 (#15074212@0)

祝早日康复！ -laohu667(老少不定); 2023-1-3 (#15074093@0) +2

🙏 -sailor(Ocean & Mountain); 2023-1-3 (#15074210@0)

I feel that spicy food or burnt food could weaken the immune system. -sailor(Ocean & Mountain); 2023-1-3 (#15074102@0) +3

我早就知道这个理了。所以，安全过冬的不二法宝是不吃任何辛辣刺激干燥的食物和零食！ -**🎧; 2023-1-3 (#15074879@0) +1

多休息，祝加速康复！ -sweettooth(AAA); 2023-1-3 (#15074126@0) +1

🙏 -sailor(Ocean & Mountain); 2023-1-3 (#15074209@0) +1

希望早日康复。正如我不能理解一个理工男怎么会去信教一样，我也不能理解一个理工男怎么会去吃宠物药。别人想傻愿傻，随他去吧 -fromtoronto(多伦多某人); 2023-1-3 (#15074128@0) +6

Thanks. It's okay to be a fool -sailor(Ocean & Mountain); 2023-1-3 (#15074208@0) +5

以老大这种体魄,不吃兽药会好得更快些 -xiaozuiba(xiaozuiba); 2023-1-3 (#15074134@0) +12
早日康复！ -235(豹平安); 2023-1-3 (#15074135@0) +2

🙏 -sailor(Ocean & Mountain); 2023-1-3 (#15074216@0)

据说莲花伤肝，慎多用。 -retirecat(多吃石榴); 2023-1-3 (#15074139@0) +1

But I didn't take lotus -sailor(Ocean & Mountain); 2023-1-3 (#15074207@0)

我是指“ 连花清瘟冲剂”。 -retirecat(多吃石榴); 2023-1-3 (#15074213@0) +1

Ok. One of my family members is a pharmacist. I believe I have complete and accurate information about this medicine. -sailor(Ocean & Mountain); 2023-1-3 (#15074219@0)

可能我的信息也不准确，自己多保重！ -retirecat(多吃石榴); 2023-1-3 (#15074446@0)

🙏 -sailor(Ocean & Mountain); 2023-1-3 (#15074457@0)

老大竟然吃连花清瘟，这次国内疫情吧连花清瘟淘汰了耶。祝早日康复 -1yizhen(yizhen); 2023-1-3 (#15074147@0) +3

路上捡到不吃白不吃还省粮食 -firetrain(火车头); 2023-1-3 (#15074169@0)

祝老大康复，等着匿名出现 -1yizhen(yizhen); 2023-1-3 (#15074173@0)

Thanks -sailor(Ocean & Mountain); 2023-1-3 (#15074181@0)

这点症状不用吃药的。老大，你是纯粹为了大家试药呀。 -pili(小黑); 2023-1-3 (#15074151@0) +1

I took the drug to control the development of the symptoms. -sailor(Ocean & Mountain); 2023-1-3 (#15074202@0)

知道会有人说不用试药，但想想IVM比Advil还安全的安全系数，给自己加个保险总没坏处。Good Luck man! -headbig(Let's Rock！); 2023-1-3 (#15074153@0) +3

I found some more articles about ivermectin and posted them to the English forum on Rolia -sailor(Ocean & Mountain); 2023-1-3 (#15074180@0) +1

天呀！没文化真可怕。我来给你贴几张中文的科普读物。还有，那个莲花清瘟就典型的大陆假药，麻黄可以抵抗发🔥但付作用极强！ -4_fun(寻开心: 誓别三推); 2023-1-3 {775} (#15074155@0) +14

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喜欢它芳香的气味 -firetrain(火车头); 2023-1-3 (#15074158@0)
Thanks. We read things from different sources -sailor(Ocean & Mountain); 2023-1-3 (#15074201@0) +1
这种东西就不用拿出来了，看过100遍了。 -blueskygg(Grass); 2023-1-3 (#15074531@0) +2

祝早日康复！ -jackliu8688(Jack); 2023-1-3 (#15074157@0) +2

🙏 -sailor(Ocean & Mountain); 2023-1-3 (#15074198@0)

早日康复 -lifewillbebetter(XYY); 2023-1-3 (#15074182@0) +1

🙏 -sailor(Ocean & Mountain); 2023-1-3 (#15074197@0)

有没有先测一个？没阳就别着急吃药 -tzm_oasis(绿洲); 2023-1-3 (#15074200@0) +1

The symptoms are real things. They matter more to me. -sailor(Ocean & Mountain); 2023-1-3 (#15074226@0)

多保重。 -ysysning(三果); 2023-1-3 (#15074258@0) +1

🙏 -sailor(Ocean & Mountain); 2023-1-3 (#15074266@0)

老大以前好像没感染过新冠吧？ -c2ren(cathy); 2023-1-3 (#15074261@0)
测一下，现在有药拿…你居然相信莲花？那不祖国的宣传嘛 -yihan(逸涵); 2023-1-3 (#15074327@0) +4

他不是高危，过了５天，拿不到那个药的。而且那个药不一定比IVM强。 -headbig(Let's Rock！); 2023-1-3 (#15074344@0)

What medicine? -sailor(Ocean & Mountain); 2023-1-3 (#15074375@0)

估计yihan指的是paxlovid -headbig(Let's Rock！); 2023-1-3 (#15074419@0)

Too new -sailor(Ocean & Mountain); 2023-1-3 (#15074464@0) +1

I didn't eat Lotus -sailor(Ocean & Mountain); 2023-1-3 (#15074371@0)

祝早日康复，估计每个人都会被感染一遍！ -evelyn123(Eva); 2023-1-3 (#15074403@0) +2

🙏 -sailor(Ocean & Mountain); 2023-1-3 (#15074465@0)

哇，10包，老大你悠着点儿,祝早日康复。 -curve(curve); 2023-1-3 (#15074428@0)

3 times a day, not many. -sailor(Ocean & Mountain); 2023-1-3 (#15074467@0)

拉肚子了吗 -curve(curve); 2023-1-3 (#15074510@0)

Nope -sailor(Ocean & Mountain); 2023-1-3 (#15074659@0)

我发烧，喝了MMS，不到4小时就退烧，并且没再复发 -**🐱; 2023-1-3 (#15074430@0) +2

MMS是啥? -**🦧; 2023-1-3 (#15074435@0)

神奇矿物质溶液MMS对治新冠译文（转载） -**🐱; 2023-1-3 (#15074601@0)

病了。头痛低烧了两天，喉痛胸闷轻咳了几天。喝了几碗姜汤，啥药都没吃，烧也退了，喉咙也不疼了，咳嗽也停了，体力也恢复得八九不离十了。心静不折腾或许是最好的疗愈方式。祝老大早日康复，谢谢 -janez1(寂照); 2023-1-3 (#15074453@0) +4

Ginger drink is good. I took it too. Also turmeric -sailor(Ocean & Mountain); 2023-1-3 (#15074473@0) +2
姜汤和连花清瘟效果差不多 -sammywang(地主管家); 2023-1-3 (#15074474@0) +1

一个性寒一个性热，刚好抵消 -curve(curve); 2023-1-3 (#15074552@0) +1

老大两者都喝了，是否说明了等于啥也没喝 -sammywang(地主管家); 2023-1-3 (#15074641@0) +1

You guys are funning. TCM is not working mechanically. -sailor(Ocean & Mountain); 2023-1-3 (#15074652@0)

反而从侧面证明了只有兽药起作用了，老大这是歪打正着 -sammywang(地主管家); 2023-1-3 (#15074674@0)

实在难受就看看医生。高烧就去急诊，虽然除了泰诺也没有什么药可以给你，但是可以拍片化验看看是不是有肺炎。 -the_dumb_one(悔不该); 2023-1-3 (#15074498@0) +1

Thanks. I believe that most pneumonia cases are caued by failing to deal with lighter symptoms timely. -sailor(Ocean & Mountain); 2023-1-3 (#15074650@0)

祝早日康复，有没有补充VC, VD，Zinc? -blueskygg(Grass); 2023-1-3 (#15074528@0) +2

Had some extra fruits only -sailor(Ocean & Mountain); 2023-1-3 (#15074584@0)

喝桔子煮水，加少许盐、糖，挤柠檬汁。除了水果还是建议补充VC、VD，Zinc和槲皮素。望早日康复！ -sunrain88(反求諸己); 2023-1-3 {204} (#15075741@0) +2

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https://www.wenjiebc.com/post/%E6%96%B0%E5%86%A0%E7%9A%84%E9%98%B2%E5%BE%A1%EF%BC%8C%E6%B2%BB%E7%96%97%E5%92%8C%E6%8E%92%E6%AF%92

🙏 -sailor(Ocean & Mountain); 2023-1-3 (#15075762@0)

症状很轻，可见不打疫苗防重症，呵呵。。。。 -itwriting(halfpercent); 2023-1-3 (#15074575@0) +6

:D -sailor(Ocean & Mountain); 2023-1-3 (#15074656@0) +1
连得的是什么都不知道呢，就开始反疫苗，我也是服了 -tzm_oasis(绿洲); 2023-1-3 (#15074660@0) +8

如果不是新冠，证明不打疫苗防感染，如果是新冠，证明不打疫苗防重症，呵呵。这是学疫苗粉的逻辑：打了疫苗得了新冠是轻症，证明疫苗防重症，嘻嘻。。。。。 -itwriting(halfpercent); 2023-1-3 (#15074680@0) +8

OMG. Sounds right logically. :D -sailor(Ocean & Mountain); 2023-1-3 (#15074692@0) +1

It's a scientific attitude to be critical towards new and experimental treatments. -sailor(Ocean & Mountain); 2023-1-3 (#15074687@0) +1

祝早日康复！ -dw9857101(大松鼠); 2023-1-3 (#15074655@0) +1

Thanks! -sailor(Ocean & Mountain); 2023-1-3 (#15074657@0)

保重，祝早日康复！ -jtax(吾土吾民); 2023-1-3 (#15074711@0) +1

Thanks! -sailor(Ocean & Mountain); 2023-1-3 (#15074746@0)

好好休息。很快就好了 -wuxin123(饭袋子_不再凝视深渊); 2023-1-3 (#15074763@0) +3

Thanks! -sailor(Ocean & Mountain); 2023-1-3 (#15074777@0) +1

宠物版的ivm老大哪里买的、我觉得我也得来点、这两天咳嗽的都发不出声音了 -xiangcaosh(船头); 2023-1-3 (#15074847@0)

老大应该有存货,快递几片? -xiaozuiba(xiaozuiba); 2023-1-3 (#15074864@0)

你不是有吗，可以贡献出来了。 -blueskygg(Grass); 2023-1-3 (#15074878@0)

多伦多有的人可以PM船头,我先谢了 -xiaozuiba(xiaozuiba); 2023-1-3 (#15075089@0)

Bought through Aliexpress long time ago. I posted the photos then. Many Rolians got it as well through the same way. -sailor(Ocean & Mountain); 2023-1-3 {137} (#15074993@0)

But I don't think ivermectin is a drug for coughing. It's just anti-viral. Cough is a symptom, not necessarily caused by COVID virus.
找蓝天，他推得那么起劲，也许有渠道。 -winterfish(潜水鱼(\ (•◡•) /)); 2023-1-3 (#15075259@0)

我国内亲戚在京东上买了，印度产的人用版，10多天还没收到。寄加拿大估计没戏，海关会拦下。 -blueskygg(Grass); 2023-1-3 (#15075864@0) +1

为何不马上开辉瑞的药？ -lovedrive(深蓝爷爷); 2023-1-3 (#15074933@0)

Too new -sailor(Ocean & Mountain); 2023-1-3 (#15074989@0) +2

辉瑞药物出来不久，群里有个朋友解释过，大概意思，这个药的结构和伊维菌素很类似，功能结构上很像，仅分支有些区别，伊维菌素的产能，被辉瑞等控制了，就这些，所以，我觉得，这个药应该可以用。 -lovedrive(深蓝爷爷); 2023-1-3 (#15075172@0)

以上说法毫无根据，这谣言就是你传出来的。 -curve(curve); 2023-1-3 (#15075214@0)

很多说法你永远找不到根据，看效果，有伊维菌素就用，没有就用辉瑞。这本身没问题。 -lovedrive(深蓝爷爷); 2023-1-3 (#15075265@0) +1

你上面说结构相似，又说找不到根据要看效果，这部证明了结构相似是造谣吗，而且也没有一位菌素有效果的三七临床结果。 -curve(curve); 2023-1-3 (#15077141@0)

伊维菌素是默克生产的，疫情后不太生产了，而且默克也出来申明IVM不能治新冠，因为他们自己要出新冠药，后来，牛津大学研究发现默克新冠药无效。 -blueskygg(Grass); 2023-1-3 {568} (#15075289@0) +1

Molnupiravir did not reduce the frequency of COVID-19-associated hospitalisations or death among high-risk vaccinated adults in the community.

Full Story:
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(22)02597-1/fulltext

默克的伊维菌素，都是在加拿大生产的。加拿大的产能是数一数二的。 -lovedrive(深蓝爷爷); 2023-1-3 (#15075383@0)

Agree. It can cause blood clot as well. Get well soon sailor! -moonlakee(moonlakee); 2023-1-3 (#15075830@0) +1

🙏 -sailor(Ocean & Mountain); 2023-1-3 (#15076227@0)

以色列研究了10万新冠患者，发现辉瑞新冠药Paxlovid对65岁以下的人无效。 -blueskygg(Grass); 2022-12-26 {707} (#15055739@0) -blueskygg(Grass); 2023-1-3 (#15075018@0) +1

我个人觉得，这个药可能和伊维菌素类似，仅早期使用有效，如果按照伊维菌素药物试验方法，适用有效条件偏窄，很容易得出和伊维菌素一样的结论。 -lovedrive(深蓝爷爷); 2023-1-3 (#15075237@0)

这个药和疫苗一样，EUA -cocojj(安静下来); 2023-1-3 (#15076220@0) +1

还可以相信辉瑞吗？ -cocojj(安静下来); 2023-1-3 (#15075050@0)

Case by case. -sailor(Ocean & Mountain); 2023-1-3 (#15075107@0)
I won't. -moonlakee(moonlakee); 2023-1-3 (#15075784@0) +1

安慰安慰，早日康复 -silkshimmer(朱窗流翠一小蝉); 2023-1-3 (#15075051@0) +1

Thanks! -sailor(Ocean & Mountain); 2023-1-3 (#15075104@0)

祝老大早日康复！大家都要系好安全带。 -steven8888(夜太黑); 2023-1-3 (#15075149@0) +1

Thanks! -sailor(Ocean & Mountain); 2023-1-3 (#15075252@0)

居然不去药房开药，自己不吃可以卖呀，五万一盒呢 -kking(捣蛋); 2023-1-3 (#15075155@0) +1

OMG -sailor(Ocean & Mountain); 2023-1-3 (#15075250@0)

保重！ -magistrex(Magix); 2023-1-3 (#15075253@0) +1

Thanks! -sailor(Ocean & Mountain); 2023-1-3 (#15075307@0)

有羟氯喹吗，和锌一起吃，补充VD3 (很重要）, VC -nopush(nopush); 2023-1-3 (#15075939@0) +1

🙏 -sailor(Ocean & Mountain); 2023-1-3 (#15076231@0)

多保重！注意补充锌，提高免疫力，另外补充维生素D，维生素C，还有Quercetine 有利于锌的吸收 -lepapillon(Le Papillon); 2023-1-3 (#15076208@0) +1

🙏 -sailor(Ocean & Mountain); 2023-1-3 (#15076230@0)

老大久练瑜伽，已到不坏之身。必然平安度劫。 -calgarian(目光似（比）月色寂寞); 2023-1-3 (#15076404@0) +2

Thanks. Long way to go -sailor(Ocean & Mountain); 2023-1-3 (#15076884@0)

你这吃的什么乱七八糟的药啊 -**🥭; 2023-1-3 (#15076455@0)
老大你为什么不试试什么药也不吃，发烧严重吃泰诺，咳嗽严重去看医生？难道不比你瞎吃药强？ -torontospy(Spy); 2023-1-3 (#15076961@0) +2
应该已经康复了吧，为你🙏。 -chaojia(心平气和); 2023-1-3 (#15077106@0) +1
祝早日康复！ -babyface(风动幡动仁者心动); 2023-1-3 (#15077160@0)
老大多保重，rolia不能没有你 -8232(无所谓); 2023-1-3 (#15077225@0)

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