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我说的是这个，才$179.,是不是不可以用在300D上？

tuantuan(terminater)
* TAMRON 80-210mm f/4.5-5.6 AF for Canon
* This uniquely designed compact zoom lens weighs only 281g (9.9oz)
* The lens' compactness makes it ideally suited for travel whether on vacation or just hiking in the mountains
* Extended telephoto range from 80mm to a long 210mm is useful for shooting portraits to wildlife
* Lens Construction (Groups/Elements): 8/9
* Angle of View: 30 degrees-11 degrees
* Type of Zooming: Rotation
* Diaphragm Blade Number: 7
* Filter Diameter: 52mm
* Minimum Aperture: F/22
* Minimum Focus: 59.0in. (1.5m)
* Macro Mag. Ratio: 1:5.8
* Diameter x Length: 2.7in. x 3.8in. (69mm x 97.5mm)
* Accessory: Lens hood
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Last Updated: 2003-11-25
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  • 枫下拾英 / 摄影艺术 / 心血来潮想弄个300D数量级的相机，主要是拍动物，不管距离远近，光线强弱（闪光灯是绝对不打的），毛发一定要清晰。有如下疑问，高手们快来呀。 -tuantuan(terminater); 2003-11-25 {385} (#1484073@0)
    1。为什么10D iso 3200, 300D iso 1600, 它们的芯片不同了吗？在仅可阅读的光线下，符合我的要求（我的要求见标题）吗。
    2。 附送的那个镜头可以zoom多少倍啊，比717要高吗，读不动那些数字。其实我很讨厌把镜头换来换去的，只是哪个超高的感光芯片很诱人，因为经常光线不足啊。
    3。在美国买划算很多吗，我有亲戚明年一月过来，是现在买还是明年再买呀。这玩艺容易坏吗？
    4。配一个zoom的比较牛的镜头多少银子？
    • 1. 2. 3. 4. -chiwawa(ZiHuaTeNaJo); 2003-11-25 {1545} (#1484176@0)
      本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛1. This link gives a thorough comparison of 300D and 10D. Although 10D is arguably "better", you probably will not see any difference on picture qualitiy which is the only concern of most users anyway. Even if 10D claims to have ISO3200, you probably do not want to go over ISO800 anyway for your shooting purposes.

      2. The zoom lens that comes with it is 18-55mm, so it gives 3x power. This new kid in town has got some good reviews as it was designed specifically for 300D. If most of your pictures will be taken under low lights, may I suggest you to get a Canon 50mm/f1.4? Forget about zoom lens which is for lazy people anyway, this lens will give you the best picture quality with no need for flash under most lighting conditions.

      3. it is cheaper in the States, at least you can save the GST+PST. The Cdn is strong right now which should give you more buying power.

      4. if you want to get a good zoom lens, 28-135mm/f5.6 (us$400) would be a good choice, while 24-70mm/f2.8 (us$1000+) would give you better results.

      Final thoughts: If you want to show the fine details of pets ( hairs ), Canon might not be the best choice. As people said, also with my personal experience, Canon digital pictures is kind of "Soft" although very "smooth", either because of the lens or the CMOS. Nikon lens might be sharper, so are Nikon or Fuji DSLR sensors. If "sharpness" is the only thing you are concerned about, you may want to consider Nikon D100 or Fuji S2Pro as I suggested for birdswimming in my previous post.

      Good luck!更多精彩文章及讨论，请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
      • 请问28-135mm/f5.6 是几倍zoom呀。我的预算是机身《usd 1000,是不是只有300D了？828 怎么样？ -tuantuan(terminater); 2003-11-25 (#1484290@0)
        • 4倍多一点点吧，接近5，不适合拍鸟，动物等，起码要10X。USD1000不够，除了机身镜头你还要给300D配CF卡，起码要256M以上，还有起码等等。。 -windflowers(风从海上来); 2003-11-25 (#1484372@0)
        • 135/28=5 5倍zoom, with us$1000, you can buy 300D kit that is 300D body+18-55mm lens. -ding_ding(丁_丁); 2003-11-25 {118} (#1484373@0)
          If you don't have experience with SLR, than don't buy 300D. It also needs a lot of work to be done in PS(photoshop).
          • 我玩过胶片的SLR, 现在用Canon s45,大部分时间都用很多手动功能，数码SLR很难吗？是不是用828会好一点。 -tuantuan(terminater); 2003-11-25 (#1484388@0)
            • "大部分时间都用很多手动功能" That's great. If you use SLR before I don't think you will go back to the "automatic" things. -ding_ding(丁_丁); 2003-11-25 {453} (#1484409@0)
              DSLR is the same thing as SLR. The biggest advantage of DSLR is that you can change Lens. Think about the 400mm Canon Lens. If you want take photo of wild life in distance. YOU SHOULD CHOOSE D300(digital rebel). Canon has the best LENS in 400mm-1000mm range. But this will cost you a lot. Any third party product will do good if you do not need high quality photos. I don't think any choices other than DSLR will do good job in wild life photographing.
              • I don't use it to shoot wild life, most are dogs, so the distance will be within 20 meters. and lots of times I can't get too close -tuantuan(terminater); 2003-11-25 {91} (#1484458@0)
                but still need the awfull detials of the dogs, like if the two nails are the same length.
        • “不管距离远近，光线强弱，毛发一定要清晰，还不要闪光。”相机不是问题。你往镜头上砸钱吧。大概4000加币应该够了。 -heian(黑暗㊣效果不好，走！); 2003-11-25 (#1484385@0)
          • :O -tuantuan(terminater); 2003-11-25 (#1484399@0)
        • 从清晰度的角度讲，828可能更好。虽然有人抨击它的伪劣蔡斯镜头，但是我个人认为717拍出的照片可能是傻瓜机里最好的。 -chiwawa(ZiHuaTeNaJo); 2003-11-25 {133} (#1484402@0)
          查你的信箱可以看到我用Canon小小白(70-200mm/F4)镜头拍的人像，看看是否符合你的清晰度要求？如果你发现有点柔是因为我在PS下柔化了一下：-）
      • 请问这个为什么这么便宜呀。 -tuantuan(terminater); 2003-11-25 (#1484415@0)
        • 吓我一跳，细看只是个讲座，TNND，Henry's赚钱赚黑了，促销还收钱！ -chiwawa(ZiHuaTeNaJo); 2003-11-25 (#1484423@0)
        • 你是指SONY-DSC P92吗? 5.0 MEGAPIXEL Effective Super HAD CCD 才$499, 还送个SONY DISKMAN. 我准备去买一个,但不知这种型号有啥缺点没有,请各位摄影大拿给评评, 谢谢. -fox69(fox); 2003-11-25 (#1484433@0)
        • 我说的是这个，才$179.,是不是不可以用在300D上？ -tuantuan(terminater); 2003-11-25 {704} (#1484444@0)
          * TAMRON 80-210mm f/4.5-5.6 AF for Canon
          * This uniquely designed compact zoom lens weighs only 281g (9.9oz)
          * The lens' compactness makes it ideally suited for travel whether on vacation or just hiking in the mountains
          * Extended telephoto range from 80mm to a long 210mm is useful for shooting portraits to wildlife
          * Lens Construction (Groups/Elements): 8/9
          * Angle of View: 30 degrees-11 degrees
          * Type of Zooming: Rotation
          * Diaphragm Blade Number: 7
          * Filter Diameter: 52mm
          * Minimum Aperture: F/22
          * Minimum Focus: 59.0in. (1.5m)
          * Macro Mag. Ratio: 1:5.8
          * Diameter x Length: 2.7in. x 3.8in. (69mm x 97.5mm)
          * Accessory: Lens hood
          • 可以。Tamron的镜头还行，也可以试试Sigma的。不过还是一分钱一分货，大多数时候原厂镜头还是好一点。 -chiwawa(ZiHuaTeNaJo); 2003-11-25 (#1484494@0)
            • 还有几个问题 AF 是自动对焦吗？ SLR是不是在同样条件下比傻瓜机稳一些/ -tuantuan(terminater); 2003-11-25 (#1484504@0)
              • Yes. Yes. -chiwawa(ZiHuaTeNaJo); 2003-11-25 (#1484820@0)
    • To meet your requirements, you will need 100mm-400mm/2.8 and 1000mm/5.6 Lens that's may cost 100 times of a 300D. -ding_ding(丁_丁); 2003-11-25 (#1484422@0)
      • 这个可以吗？一米内的东西可以拍到吗？好像zoom 10倍吧 -tuantuan(terminater); 2003-11-25 (#1484536@0)
    • 给大家看看1/20秒照的猫，只有一点点糊，不错吧。 -tuantuan(terminater); 2003-11-25 (#1484445@0)
      • 挺漂亮的猫! 照动物一般更多用大光圈,而不是慢快门! 不过镜头的价格基本上只与最大光圈相关,good luck! -eagle_no1(瞎起哄); 2003-11-25 (#1484464@0)
        • gg,那是因为光线暗，我也不想啊，所以很向往感光能力强的芯片和大的镜头：（ -tuantuan(terminater); 2003-11-25 {596} (#1484469@0)
          File Name
          114_1495.JPG
          Camera Model Name
          Canon PowerShot S45
          Shooting Date/Time
          25/11/2003 8:29:14 AM
          Shooting Mode
          Aperture-Priority AE
          Photo Effect Mode
          Off
          Tv( Shutter Speed )
          1/20
          Av( Aperture Value )
          3.2
          Metering Mode
          Evaluative
          Exposure Compensation
          0
          ISO Speed
          200
          Lens
          7.1 - 21.3mm
          Focal Length
          8.6mm
          Digital Zoom
          None
          Image Size
          2272x1704
          Image Quality
          Fine
          Flash
          Off
          White Balance
          Auto
          AF Mode
          Single AF
          File Size
          949KB
          Drive Mode
          Single-frame shooting
          Owner's Name
        • 您用的什么镜头？能不能用你的10D弄张iso800的动物让我瞧瞧：） -tuantuan(terminater); 2003-11-25 (#1484474@0)
          • 我平时用的是 上面大侠们推荐的 28/135 (4,5-5,6) IS的镜头(还没你的镜头口径大),不是专业镜头, 但确实是很方便的镜头.回头照个iso800小动物的照片试试. -eagle_no1(瞎起哄); 2003-11-25 (#1484488@0)
            • 其实测试很简单， 我拿几袋狗毛给你拍个照片就好了，分别为纯白的纯黑的，黄的，变换几种室内灯光。 -tuantuan(terminater); 2003-11-25 (#1484498@0)
              • 好!好!好!我自己去找狗毛! 找不着我给我的经理和team leaders拍几张照片, 他们的头发分别是黑,白,黄的,一样!一样!.... -eagle_no1(瞎起哄); 2003-11-25 (#1484509@0)
    • 我们一起去走私吧 -eglington(eglington); 2003-11-25 (#1484537@0)
      • 是走私划算还是拿来减税划算呢？如果走私的话，我跟定你了：） -tuantuan(terminater); 2003-11-25 (#1484569@0)

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