Many people don't believe 房价is going to 下跌 or just don't WANT to believe. Just like several years ago, nobody would believe that Nortel stock would be down to several dollors per share.

tiny_cobra(毛毛虫)

People alwasys compare Canadian House Market to US, China or somewhere else. I want to tell you that there is nothing to compare. House price is based on Location, location and location. Canada is just a big different location with only 30M population compare to other countrys.

During the 10 years of economy booming, many people saved lots of money, this is where the house purchase power comes from. Now the purchase power is almost released. Also many new built units will be completed at the end of this year.

House price is very sensitive topic. Lots of people benefit from it. They don't want to see the price down. That is understandable.

Arguing here might just waste the time. Let's wait and see what is happening in the next several monthes. And we will find out who is
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中心思想总结的很简明扼要。 -ttl(1碗泡馍2瓶啤酒50串肉); 2003-7-6 (#1272734@0)

承蒙誇獎。同時也看了一些新屋的報價，感覺這舊房的房價還要長。這可如何是好。 -lego(lego); 2003-7-6 (#1272744@0)

低买高卖，发财发财 -susse(雨仙); 2003-7-6 (#1272773@0)

不用太着急。六月份重售屋又创历年该月新高。但在地产界的一片欢呼声中，我还是看到了一线希望：平均价格下跌了1%。 -tiny_cobra(毛毛虫); 2003-7-6 {433} (#1273143@0)

若七月份依然放量下跌的话，那末到今年年底的无量下跌就意味着房产的冬天终于来了。
美国上月又降息0.25%. 在加拿大央行对降息犹豫不决时，房屋贷款利率却在悄悄的爬升。
美国上月失业率上升到6.4%。加拿大老觉得自己能抛开美国经济的阴影，也许那永远只是一个梦想。目前加制造业一片萧条。加币升值的后劲还没完全暴发呢。。。
房屋租金的大幅下跌，正是房产泡末崩馈的前兆。
人们总是不相信历史会重演。作为投机性的房产还是赶快脱手吧，因为你已经挣得够多了。

唉，这加拿大几年来，总共涨了30％的房价也叫泡沫？我四年前在纽约买的一个Apartment花了五万五美金，现在我楼下同样房型的开价十四万五，我去年在杭州买的一平方￥3300，现在一个小区的涨到了￥4700，那又算什么？ -carelesswhisper(无心快语); 2003-7-6 (#1273242@0)

没听说canadian们胆小吗？ -d2o(尘埃落定：ATLANTIS); 2003-7-6 (#1273338@0)
网上吹牛是不犯法的，你的数字中也就杭州的比较真实。国内开始干预房产过热的措施正在出台呢。Good Luck Man. -tiny_cobra(毛毛虫); 2003-7-6 (#1273483@0)

嘿嘿,你怎么知道他在吹牛? -beibei(beibei); 2003-7-6 (#1273497@0)

in NYC 50k for an appartment in '99? no way, even in Harlem. but I heard someone got a condo for $250k in '99 now which is round $400k -lile601(lile601); 2003-7-6 (#1273524@0)

嘿嘿，如果是在纽约待过的就知道我有没有吹牛了，我买的是一种被称为CO－OP的合作公寓，是纽约特有的，它比一般的共有公寓便宜很多，但买卖比较麻烦，对住客的要求很多，99年不要说五万，四万多的两房公寓都有。 -carelesswhisper(无心快语); 2003-7-6 (#1273590@0)

co-op这里也有，但很少；相当于是个使用权、居住权，没有所有权 -d2o(尘埃落定：ATLANTIS); 2003-7-6 (#1273606@0)

你讲得不错，奇怪的是这儿的CO－OP和普通公寓价格相差并不大，但纽约就相差得多了。我一直不明白其中的道理，有没有行家指点一下啊？ -carelesswhisper(无心快语); 2003-7-6 (#1273616@0)

有空带你的宝宝们来我家玩吧 :) -beibei(beibei); 2003-7-6 (#1273637@0)

好的好的，怎不早说，昨天晚上我们还在外面兜风，闷得没地方去。你的新家还一直没去过呢，屋子里还缺啥呢？下次给你捎上。 -carelesswhisper(无心快语); 2003-7-6 (#1273648@0)

什么都不用带,人来就行了 :) -beibei(beibei); 2003-7-7 (#1274625@0)

how much is the maintenance fee per month? I heard at least $800 for 2beds. -lile601(lile601); 2003-7-6 (#1273664@0)

合作公寓的管理费是贵点，不同的地区也不同，我的Building是差不多一个月五百，包水电，冷暖气，地税。不过不包车位，纽约车位太紧张了。 -carelesswhisper(无心快语); 2003-7-6 (#1273691@0)

兄弟这话可说错了，这家伙可是货真价实的大地主。 -york_region(york_region); 2003-7-7 (#1273966@0)

什么大地主，你可别给我瞎吹，我是买不起才买几万块的房子的，哪比得上你的豪宅啊。BTW，你的房子现在是不是涨到四十几万了？我所有的房子加起来也比不上你一栋啊。 -carelesswhisper(无心快语); 2003-7-7 (#1274006@0)

别急啊，没人说你巨额财产来源不明：） -wise(不通啊不通); 2003-7-7 (#1274029@0)

我哪有什么不明财产啊。倒是不通兄你，这两天股市飙涨，可别忘了缴税哦。：D -carelesswhisper(无心快语); 2003-7-7 (#1274065@0)

房屋应该有折旧，现在是不加维护的破房也要涨30%，事实上就不止50%了。此外，房地产的回报率如果大大的大于股市，也会有一只无形的市场之手把它拉回来。毕竟这几年的就业市场和平均收入都是在下跌的。 -cityfarmer(寒林郊民); 2003-7-6 (#1273698@0)

说涨价，这几年世界上房价都在涨，相比之下，加拿大是慢的，别说比不了美国，中国，我看连英国什么的都比它涨的快，要说泡沫，86，87那才真是泡沫，现在不过回到了正常水平，再说了，拿在多伦多买房子的 -carelesswhisper(无心快语); 2003-7-6 {103} (#1273710@0)
钱回国，不要说在上海，北京买不到同样水平的房子，在二线城市也未必买得到,难道中国房子的造价还高过加拿大？

中国房子的造价确实高过加拿大。 -cityfarmer(寒林郊民); 2003-7-7 (#1273755@0)

就那些六百元一个月的民工搭起来的毛抷房？ -carelesswhisper(无心快语); 2003-7-7 (#1273763@0)

早年企业可以自己卖地，现在都是由国土办公拍，难免有炒作，地皮越来越贵，另外，房贷政策宽松，地产开发的利润过高，吸引大量资本进入，还有地产行业宏观管理混乱，导致漫天要价，开发商普遍欺压消费者。 -becky(Aztecs in RTS); 2003-7-7 (#1273861@0)
北京上海差不多, 但是一般的2线城市还是绰绰有余吧. 别拿杭州当2线, 杭州某些消费比上海还高. -phoebus(天行者); 2003-7-7 (#1274032@0)

那倒是，杭州的有钱人太多了，那些有钱的浙江人都在杭州买房，一出手都是十几套，眼都不眨一下。 -carelesswhisper(无心快语); 2003-7-7 (#1274046@0)

发财拉, 请客, 请客!!! 什么时候打球啊? -phoebus(天行者); 2003-7-7 (#1274026@0)

发什么财啊,房子在那儿是要住的,又变不了现. BTW,我们以前一起打过球吗?现在我是没时间了,业余体育活动只有陪儿子,女儿游游泳了. -carelesswhisper(无心快语); 2003-7-7 (#1274056@0)

呵呵, 你家电话怎么老占线啊? 最近你的CONDO那里设施还是人满为患么? -phoebus(天行者); 2003-7-7 (#1274077@0)

没有啊。我自己也好久没去Condo了，不过那里也就是下午人多，上午和晚上都还满空的。 -carelesswhisper(无心快语); 2003-7-7 (#1274100@0)

在美国经济没复苏之前，指望房价下跌是痴人说梦而已。资本主义经济发展本来就是一个泡沫接着另一个泡沫，没有泡沫的健康经济从来没有存在过。 -wins(wins); 2003-7-6 (#1273670@0)

既然是泡沫，还不会破吗？ -cityfarmer(寒林郊民); 2003-7-6 (#1273702@0)
Many people don't believe 房价is going to 下跌 or just don't WANT to believe. Just like several years ago, nobody would believe that Nortel stock would be down to several dollors per share. -tiny_cobra(毛毛虫); 2003-7-7 {807} (#1274112@0)
People alwasys compare Canadian House Market to US, China or somewhere else. I want to tell you that there is nothing to compare. House price is based on Location, location and location. Canada is just a big different location with only 30M population compare to other countrys.

During the 10 years of economy booming, many people saved lots of money, this is where the house purchase power comes from. Now the purchase power is almost released. Also many new built units will be completed at the end of this year.

House price is very sensitive topic. Lots of people benefit from it. They don't want to see the price down. That is understandable.

Arguing here might just waste the time. Let's wait and see what is happening in the next several monthes. And we will find out who is
痴人说梦ing.

自家人，哈哈，支持一下。跌跌跌！ -cobra(Cobra); 2003-7-7 (#1274161@0)

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Many people don't believe 房价is going to 下跌 or just don't WANT to believe. Just like several years ago, nobody would believe that Nortel stock would be down to several dollors per share.

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